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PetePierson wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:07 pm
emby wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:04 pm Oh, no! not the fast food restaurants!

It's the wages, huh? It's not the $16 for McLunch? It's not the doordashers adding 20% on top of that? It's not trends in the restaurant business gravitating to fast casual? It's not the commercial real estate market that makes a plot of land on Sunset Boulevard more valuable as something other than the golden arches? It's not franchisees liquidating their position in the company because they forgot to pay taxes?

It's the girl that hands me my coffee with a smile barely making enough money to afford to eat at the restaurant she works at. Got it.



Diatribe over, I'm left to say that I for one am fed up being told that the only way for the economy to work is for the rich people to have all the money. Those fuckers buy and sell people every day without a second thought and it's just crass douchebaggery to blame their own workers for their failed business. You never hear them bitch about Sysco hurting margins.
IT'S A FUCKING STARTING JOB FOR KIDS AND RETIREES. They aren't career jobs. So every single position out there should provide a livable wage?
What world are you living in?
The real world in which people who are neither kids or retirees work these jobs to try to support themselves and/or dependents. What world are you living in?
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The Outsider wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:50 pm

The real world in which people who are neither kids or retirees work these jobs to try to support themselves and/or dependents. What world are you living in?
The one where there are 1st / beginner jobs. You learn you like, enjoy can deal with being in that industry and earn promotions, more responsibilities & more money, expand your skill set. Or this isn't the end-all and you try something new, find a better fit.

Apparently, I live in the wrong world. Hence the constant feeling of never ending frustration & misery.
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PetePierson wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:36 pm
The Outsider wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:50 pm

The real world in which people who are neither kids or retirees work these jobs to try to support themselves and/or dependents. What world are you living in?
The one where there are 1st / beginner jobs. You learn you like, enjoy can deal with being in that industry and earn promotions, more responsibilities & more money, expand your skill set. Or this isn't the end-all and you try something new, find a better fit.

Apparently, I live in the wrong world. Hence the constant feeling of never ending frustration & misery.
Why can't that pay enough to afford an apartment on their own while they try these things?

Afraid they'll be content with a shitty job? So what if they are?

I'm all for a "stop whining" economy, but there's no sense for the difficulty level to be set this high.
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emby wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:47 pm

Why can't that pay enough to afford an apartment on their own while they try these things?

Afraid they'll be content with a shitty job? So what if they are?

I'm all for a "stop whining" economy, but there's no sense for the difficulty level to be set this high.
To what end? The kid who mows my lawn should be paid a livable wage?

I've already stated that housing costs are two expensive and how much I loathe Blackrock, Vanguard and all these huge "drvelopers" jacking up costs all over. We all lose in this scenario.

I'm sure all 3 of us could sell our homes for a significant profit & quickly to? Then what? Have to find another place to live with a mortgage rate 2.4-2.5% greater interest rate.

But expect another housing crash soon. We'll still be fucked, just differently.

Yay!
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PetePierson wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:36 pm
The Outsider wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:50 pm

The real world in which people who are neither kids or retirees work these jobs to try to support themselves and/or dependents. What world are you living in?
The one where there are 1st / beginner jobs. You learn you like, enjoy can deal with being in that industry and earn promotions, more responsibilities & more money, expand your skill set. Or this isn't the end-all and you try something new, find a better fit.

Apparently, I live in the wrong world. Hence the constant feeling of never ending frustration & misery.
That's not the real world. Reality is that some (a shockingly large amount) people aren't capable of working on a higher level than that. They should make enough money to survive anyway. Hell, more than half of adult Americans can't fucking read at higher than a 6th grade level.

The real world fucking sucks, but it could be significantly better if we weren't so selfish as a cultural rule.
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PetePierson wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:54 pm
emby wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:47 pm

Why can't that pay enough to afford an apartment on their own while they try these things?

Afraid they'll be content with a shitty job? So what if they are?

I'm all for a "stop whining" economy, but there's no sense for the difficulty level to be set this high.
To what end? The kid who mows my lawn should be paid a livable wage?

I've already stated that housing costs are two expensive and how much I loathe Blackrock, Vanguard and all these huge "drvelopers" jacking up costs all over. We all lose in this scenario.

I'm sure all 3 of us could sell our homes for a significant profit & quickly to? Then what? Have to find another place to live with a mortgage rate 2.4-2.5% greater interest rate.

But expect another housing crash soon. We'll still be fucked, just differently.

Yay!
Housing crash wouldn't really hurt me as I don't really plan on selling any time soon. I'd almost prefer it because it would make moving to a better area more accessible.
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The Outsider wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:24 am
PetePierson wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:54 pm
emby wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:47 pm

Why can't that pay enough to afford an apartment on their own while they try these things?

Afraid they'll be content with a shitty job? So what if they are?

I'm all for a "stop whining" economy, but there's no sense for the difficulty level to be set this high.
To what end? The kid who mows my lawn should be paid a livable wage?

I've already stated that housing costs are two expensive and how much I loathe Blackrock, Vanguard and all these huge "drvelopers" jacking up costs all over. We all lose in this scenario.

I'm sure all 3 of us could sell our homes for a significant profit & quickly to? Then what? Have to find another place to live with a mortgage rate 2.4-2.5% greater interest rate.

But expect another housing crash soon. We'll still be fucked, just differently.

Yay!
Housing crash wouldn't really hurt me as I don't really plan on selling any time soon. I'd almost prefer it because it would make moving to a better area more accessible.
True. I could lose ten percent off the top and still make a substantial down payment on something I could pay off in ten years.

If my kids could afford to move out, We'd have downshifted already.
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Babcock furniture folded and now Big lots is closing 300 stores.

Can't really blame that on shoplifting can we?

Babcock and Big Lots are blaming stingy consumers. Funny how that's never the excuse in cities.
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Just walked from a Fortune 100 company.

Am I cool now, Comrade?
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PetePierson wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:41 am Just walked from a Fortune 100 company.

Am I cool now, Comrade?
You were always the Trotsky to my Lenin.

What happened?
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emby wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:49 pm You were always the Trotsky to my Lenin.

What happened?
Long & uninteresting story. Boss said something to me I did not like. I asked him to repeat himself (professionally). He did with the typical asshole laugh as if he were joking. Cowards never expect to be called out.

I excused myself, got all my shit & left laptop & badge on desk.

After seeing my folks play the game the right way (for the most part) their entire lives only to lose everything and hear my mother cry herself to sleep at night bc she's old, scared & confused.

Yeah, I'm going to try and do something that makes me happy before I go find my tree and lay down.

Going to take rest of month off to help them. Have my father's surviving siblings all flying in for Thanksgiving. One last family gathering that we never would have had if weren't for storms.

As you are so fond of pointing out, been divorced forever. Never remarried. No kids (that I know of) so it is "easier" for me to take a little risk.

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