Corporate Malfeasance

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kaimaru wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 2:16 pm
emby wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 7:25 am
kaimaru wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:25 pm

The last part was me conceding I was being a douche on the matter, can we move past that?
I seem to misread you a lot.
You do. I am old but not angry. I believe people should live their life however makes them happy (barring hurting someone else unwillingly). I have experienced a lot of spectrums of life. I have lived an alternative life as well as traditional. I have people to worry about, but I know they will survive. I will make sure they do. I bitch sometimes just to bitch. Doesn't mean I mean it with all my heart. I promise you that I see both sides of it.

Take education forgiveness that you seem to think I don't want for people. I think that money can best be spent elsewhere than to forgive debt that people agreed with. I feel that if the government is giving away money, how about free healthcare for anyone living in poverty and the elderly? How about interest free loans for lower and middle classes to buy homes? This is the last time I am bringing up student loan forgiveness, but since you seen to be at a loss, I felt I would open up more about who I am. I am certain if we were to ever have a cold one together that we would see a lot eye to eye, just different priorities
One argument about forgiving debt is it frees up those funds for people to inject back in to the economy in terms of spending whereas loan payments don't have the same economic impact.

Most of us (with the exception of a lot of the folks on the other board though there are many over there who I would say I was friendly with, my beef is mainly with the core group of clowns in that circus) would get along with one another. People typically aren't altogether different on the most basic levels. I come hard on the forums about my opinions because I'm passionate and I worked construction and in a kitchen for almost 20 years so typing a paragraph without saying fuck is physically painful to me.

The only time I draw a hard line in the sand politically is when I identify things that I believe could be a threat to our republic which means I think it's a threat to you just as much as it is to me. I believe patriotism isn't flying a flag, or serving in the military fighting a war overseas against brown people for the MIC and Petrochemical cartel, true patriotism is the willingness of the common man to say, "Enough is enough, this is my country and I won't let you destroy it." and lay their life on the line to protect that country.

I never served, but you can be damn well sure I'll protect the constitution and the American people from enemies both foreign and domestic to the extent of my abilities as a fat, partially disabled 37 year old man with too many firearms.
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Outtie be like

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More like this.

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PetePierson wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:19 am I have long been a proponent that private businesses can do, cater to whatever / whomever they like.
See, I think private businesses deserve no rights at all. I am for the full subjugation and exploitation of the corporate entity.
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emby wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:21 am See, I think private businesses deserve no rights at all. I am for the full subjugation and exploitation of the corporate entity.
Yes, this is the crux of our very complex bromance.
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PetePierson wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:03 am
emby wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:21 am See, I think private businesses deserve no rights at all. I am for the full subjugation and exploitation of the corporate entity.
Yes, this is the crux of our very complex bromance.
Nowhere in the constitution is a corporate body afforded any rights comparable to a citizen. Nor should there be.

But if we check with the black robed wizard ephors we'll see that they think otherwise.

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You mean to tell me that Fry Guy was designed to be a career, buy a home and raise a family? Shocking.
...take California, for example. At $16 per hour, the Golden State has the second-highest statewide minimum wage. It recently imposed a special minimum wage of $20 per hour for fast-food workers. Already, it’s been a minor disaster. Since the hourly pay raises, scores of fast-food businesses have shut down across the state. The Wall Street Journal reported that some fast-food establishments didn’t even wait for California’s new wage law to go into effect and began laying off staff and scaling back workers’ hours before the law went into effect.

And that’s not just true in California. Across the country, some of the hardest hit among the millions of people impacted by job losses or reduced hours following minimum wage increases are fast-food workers.

A McDonald’s advertising campaign boasts that one in eight Americans has worked at the fast-food chain. That figure holds true for my household of eight. My husband was once a McDonald’s employee. My first foray into the workforce was also as a fast-food worker, as a Pizza Hut employee. But while we both started off in minimum-wage jobs, I’m happy to report that neither of us is still at the bottom rungs of the earnings ladder. Our fast-food jobs were an important entree, however, into the world of work.


That’s true for many Americans. They start out in minimum-wage jobs, but don’t stay there for long. Today, fewer than one out of every 1,000 workers earns the minimum wage, and 60% of those who do are under age 25.
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Oh, no! not the fast food restaurants!

It's the wages, huh? It's not the $16 for McLunch? It's not the doordashers adding 20% on top of that? It's not trends in the restaurant business gravitating to fast casual? It's not the commercial real estate market that makes a plot of land on Sunset Boulevard more valuable as something other than the golden arches? It's not franchisees liquidating their position in the company because they forgot to pay taxes?

It's the girl that hands me my coffee with a smile barely making enough money to afford to eat at the restaurant she works at. Got it.



Diatribe over, I'm left to say that I for one am fed up being told that the only way for the economy to work is for the rich people to have all the money. Those fuckers buy and sell people every day without a second thought and it's just crass douchebaggery to blame their own workers for their failed business. You never hear them bitch about Sysco hurting margins.
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emby wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:04 pm Oh, no! not the fast food restaurants!

It's the wages, huh? It's not the $16 for McLunch? It's not the doordashers adding 20% on top of that? It's not trends in the restaurant business gravitating to fast casual? It's not the commercial real estate market that makes a plot of land on Sunset Boulevard more valuable as something other than the golden arches? It's not franchisees liquidating their position in the company because they forgot to pay taxes?

It's the girl that hands me my coffee with a smile barely making enough money to afford to eat at the restaurant she works at. Got it.



Diatribe over, I'm left to say that I for one am fed up being told that the only way for the economy to work is for the rich people to have all the money. Those fuckers buy and sell people every day without a second thought and it's just crass douchebaggery to blame their own workers for their failed business. You never hear them bitch about Sysco hurting margins.
IT'S A FUCKING STARTING JOB FOR KIDS AND RETIREES. They aren't career jobs. So every single position out there should provide a livable wage?
What world are you living in?
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PetePierson wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:07 pm
emby wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:04 pm Oh, no! not the fast food restaurants!

It's the wages, huh? It's not the $16 for McLunch? It's not the doordashers adding 20% on top of that? It's not trends in the restaurant business gravitating to fast casual? It's not the commercial real estate market that makes a plot of land on Sunset Boulevard more valuable as something other than the golden arches? It's not franchisees liquidating their position in the company because they forgot to pay taxes?

It's the girl that hands me my coffee with a smile barely making enough money to afford to eat at the restaurant she works at. Got it.



Diatribe over, I'm left to say that I for one am fed up being told that the only way for the economy to work is for the rich people to have all the money. Those fuckers buy and sell people every day without a second thought and it's just crass douchebaggery to blame their own workers for their failed business. You never hear them bitch about Sysco hurting margins.
IT'S A FUCKING STARTING JOB FOR KIDS AND RETIREES. They aren't career jobs. So every single position out there should provide a livable wage?
What world are you living in?
Yes. I believe that every worker deserves a livable wage.

That's the promise of Murica. Put in your 40 hours and you can make it.
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PetePierson wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:07 pm
emby wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:04 pm Oh, no! not the fast food restaurants!

It's the wages, huh? It's not the $16 for McLunch? It's not the doordashers adding 20% on top of that? It's not trends in the restaurant business gravitating to fast casual? It's not the commercial real estate market that makes a plot of land on Sunset Boulevard more valuable as something other than the golden arches? It's not franchisees liquidating their position in the company because they forgot to pay taxes?

It's the girl that hands me my coffee with a smile barely making enough money to afford to eat at the restaurant she works at. Got it.



Diatribe over, I'm left to say that I for one am fed up being told that the only way for the economy to work is for the rich people to have all the money. Those fuckers buy and sell people every day without a second thought and it's just crass douchebaggery to blame their own workers for their failed business. You never hear them bitch about Sysco hurting margins.
IT'S A FUCKING STARTING JOB FOR KIDS AND RETIREES. They aren't career jobs. So every single position out there should provide a livable wage?
What world are you living in?
The real world in which people who are neither kids or retirees work these jobs to try to support themselves and/or dependents. What world are you living in?
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