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Bobby Wagner vs LVD

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 2:49 pm
by kaimaru
From Pewter Report, what jumps out is that everything is about equal with the exceptions that LVD dominated the stats TFL, forced fumbles, and fumble recoveries. The only thing Wagner has over LVD is more combined tackles which IMO isn't important. Wagner has 10 All-Pro awards (6x1st, 4x2nd) and LVD only has 3 (1st, 2x2nd) and 1 Pro Bowl to Wagner's 9. Wagner was also selected for the 2010s All Decade Team. I tell you it's absolutely criminal how underrated LVD is. I can see Wagner being a 1st ballot HoF and LVD never getting into the final selection. smdh

Commanders ILB Bobby Wagner
Tackles: 1,706 (996 solo)
Tackles for loss: 89
Sacks: 33
Forced fumbles: 6
Fumble recoveries: 10
Pass breakups: 68
Interceptions: 13
Defensive TDs: 4
Safeties: 1

Bucs ILB Lavonte David
Tackles: 1,480 (1,035 solo)
Tackles for loss: 160
Sacks: 33.5
Forced fumbles: 28
Fumble recoveries: 18
Pass breakups: 64
Interceptions: 12
Defensive TDs: 3
Safeties: 1

Re: Bobby Wagner vs LVD

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 5:50 pm
by The Outsider
I've made this exact post many times in many different places over the last few years. LVD has been the best ILB of the last decade and that is 100% a hill that I'll die on. Especially considering he converted from WILL which isn't something that happens often at all.

Fuck, this post is gonna make me install an upvote and downvote plugin.

Re: Bobby Wagner vs LVD

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 7:23 pm
by emby
The Outsider wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 5:50 pm I've made this exact post many times in many different places over the last few years. LVD has been the best ILB of the last decade and that is 100% a hill that I'll die on. Especially considering he converted from WILL which isn't something that happens often at all.

Fuck, this post is gonna make me install an upvote and downvote plugin.
I'm in favor of that because sometimes that's all the reply a post needs.

I don't see a need to keep score though.

Re: Bobby Wagner vs LVD

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 7:25 pm
by emby
Regardless of how the stats look, I'd take David over Wagner for my defense this season.

No disrespect to Wagner and I won't say he's washed, just saying that David is better today.

Re: Bobby Wagner vs LVD

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 4:57 pm
by The Outsider
emby wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 7:23 pm
The Outsider wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 5:50 pm I've made this exact post many times in many different places over the last few years. LVD has been the best ILB of the last decade and that is 100% a hill that I'll die on. Especially considering he converted from WILL which isn't something that happens often at all.

Fuck, this post is gonna make me install an upvote and downvote plugin.
I'm in favor of that because sometimes that's all the reply a post needs.

I don't see a need to keep score though.
My high ass lost the key for the back end of the site. It's on one of my laptops and worst case it's on my work pc. Operation rep is delayed but still planned.