Ughhh... Joey vs Bad Orange Man Debate

[emby]

Bottom post of the previous page:

Oh, I agree. Biden is notoriously stubborn and his ego has always been bloated so I don't expect him to step aside unless Jill convinces him to. And she is one evil cunt so that's not going to happen.

So now all Trump has to do is convince you to not vote for the brain worm.

Don't get me wrong, Trump did not have a good night (other than mostly behaving). As usual; he provided no Stats, numbers, policies he wants to implement, etc... just repeated very general statements and lies.

The only thing he did well was hammer Biden on the border no matter the question / subject.

That aughtta be enough for you.

Biden is on the ropes. Why not jump in for the big win?

I'm dying to know why you don't want to run with the bulls this morning. You get the whole weekend to victory lap this.

[PetePierson]

That aughtta be enough for you.

Biden is on the ropes. Why not jump in for the big win?

I'm dying to know why you don't want to run with the bulls this morning. You get the whole weekend to victory lap this.

I'm not trying to troll you. Yeah, I lean more right than left but I'm in no way a Trump guy. From Tuberville, to Gaetz to MTG and a host of others, the GOP is lost. I interned on the Hill when Newt was Speaker, Contract with America, I was on the steps of the Capitol with Bob Dole. Talked football for a good 20 minutes with Jack Kamp. Looking back, I'm not that kid anymore but I respected those guys a lot.

That party is LONG gone!.

I've become incredibly radicalized the last 10 years. If my only choice is Biden or Trump, I most likely just sit this one out.

[emby]

That aughtta be enough for you.

Biden is on the ropes. Why not jump in for the big win?

I'm dying to know why you don't want to run with the bulls this morning. You get the whole weekend to victory lap this.

I'm not trying to troll you. Yeah, I lean more right than left but I'm in no way a Trump guy. From Tuberville, to Gaetz to MTG and a host of others, the GOP is lost. I interned on the Hill when Newt was Speaker, Contract with America, I was on the steps of the Capitol with Bob Dole. Talked football for a good 20 minutes with Jack Kamp. Looking back, I'm not that kid anymore but I respected those guys a lot.

That party is LONG gone!.

I've become incredibly radicalized the last 10 years. If my only choice is Biden or Trump, I most likely just sit this one out.

I know you weren't trolling.That's why I asked.

[PetePierson]

I know you weren't trolling.That's why I asked.

AS much as I hate the government I do really love my country, it is not a trope for me. The country looked bad last night, gross actually. And as much as i can't stand Biden, I almost feel badly for him. He's just old. I should be so lucky to live as long as him (spoiler alert: I won't).

He's feeble and weak. Biden did what he set out to do and that was to beat Trump in '20. But that damn hubris (that they all have) wouldn't and won't allow him to step aside.

Both candidates are an embarrassment. It's sad.

[emby]

I know you weren't trolling.That's why I asked.

AS much as I hate the government I do really love my country, it is not a trope for me. The country looked bad last night, gross actually. And as much as i can't stand Biden, I almost feel badly for him. He's just old. I should be so lucky to live as long as him (spoiler alert: I won't).

He's feeble and weak. Biden did what he set out to do and that was to beat Trump in '20. But that damn hubris (that they all have) wouldn't and won't allow him to step aside.

Both candidates are an embarrassment. It's sad.

If it was anybody other than trump, the country would just shrug and vote for the Republican. Better luck next time, liberals.

But it's not going to be like that is it? Trump wins and he will do a lot of damage and people know it.

Pick your poison.

[The Outsider]

I know you weren't trolling.That's why I asked.

AS much as I hate the government I do really love my country, it is not a trope for me. The country looked bad last night, gross actually. And as much as i can't stand Biden, I almost feel badly for him. He's just old. I should be so lucky to live as long as him (spoiler alert: I won't).

He's feeble and weak. Biden did what he set out to do and that was to beat Trump in '20. But that damn hubris (that they all have) wouldn't and won't allow him to step aside.

Both candidates are an embarrassment. It's sad.

If it was anybody other than trump, the country would just shrug and vote for the Republican. Better luck next time, liberals.

But it's not going to be like that is it? Trump wins and he will do a lot of damage and people know it.

Pick your poison.

I have serious concerns Trump will, if not directly end American democracy, but at least lay the framework for it to be done. Project 2025 isn't a joke, and it's kind of terrifying. I love my country, but I don't want to live in a Evangelical Christian theocracy. Literally everything about that runs contrary to my ideology in virtually every way. It destroys all of the things that I do love about this country.

I know a Biden presidency won't end with the dismantling of the United States as we know it and that's honestly all I need to know when the other guy is a malignant narcissist and the party he represents has gone completely off the deep end in to borderline fascism.

[PetePierson]

I have serious concerns Trump will, if not directly end American democracy, but at least lay the framework for it to be done. Project 2025 isn't a joke, and it's kind of terrifying. I love my country, but I don't want to live in a Evangelical Christian theocracy. Literally everything about that runs contrary to my ideology in virtually every way. It destroys all of the things that I do love about this country.

I know a Biden presidency won't end with the dismantling of the United States as we know it and that's honestly all I need to know when the other guy is a malignant narcissist and the party he represents has gone completely off the deep end in to borderline fascism.

I 100% agree that the separation of Church & State is and always has been a core tenant of this country. That should not change, ever.

I've heard a lot about Project 2025 but haven't looked into it all. I don't view Trump as the Bond Villain most do. He was already President once and we all survived. But he is a colossal moron just like the majority of the criminals in DC. However, he really has no vision or plan - just a few key phrases that he repeats over and over. I also have no idea of anyone worth their salt that would be part of his administration.

He did however promise to put a Librarian in his Cabinet during his speech at the National Convention a few weeks ago. I am sure it was a lie but that's the only thing he has going for me to even consider him.

[PetePierson]

The memes are so fucking good right now.

[The Outsider]

I have serious concerns Trump will, if not directly end American democracy, but at least lay the framework for it to be done. Project 2025 isn't a joke, and it's kind of terrifying. I love my country, but I don't want to live in a Evangelical Christian theocracy. Literally everything about that runs contrary to my ideology in virtually every way. It destroys all of the things that I do love about this country.

I know a Biden presidency won't end with the dismantling of the United States as we know it and that's honestly all I need to know when the other guy is a malignant narcissist and the party he represents has gone completely off the deep end in to borderline fascism.

I 100% agree that the separation of Church & State is and always has been a core tenant of this country. That should not change, ever.

I've heard a lot about Project 2025 but haven't looked into it all. I don't view Trump as the Bond Villain most do. He was already President once and we all survived. But he is a colossal moron just like the majority of the criminals in DC. However, he really has no vision or plan - just a few key phrases that he repeats over and over. I also have no idea of anyone worth their salt that would be part of his administration.

He did however promise to put a Librarian in his Cabinet during his speech at the National Convention a few weeks ago. I am sure it was a lie but that's the only thing he has going for me to even consider him.

You assume that I think Trump is even competent. The only think Trump is skilled at is being a lying, greedy, selfish piece of shit. It's the people in the shadows funding him and the conservative think tanks like the Federalist Society and the Heritage Foundation that made the policies and plans, Trump is simply the conduit because he'll do literally anything if he thinks he'd benefit from it.

We're in an extremely dangerous place right now. If you look at the rise of fascism throughout history most of the movements have commonalities in the factors that allowed them to rise to power. I see many of those factors in the US and particularly conservative Americans.

And it's not about who is in his cabinet. One of the main parts of their plan is to continue shaping the judiciary like they did during Trump's first term. I'm a fucking nerd and I love political and military history. All of these things are extremely obvious to me, they don't really try to hide what they're doing because they've been able to get away with it for the most part.

I'm not someone that you would say leads a traditional lifestyle. I'm also outspoken about my beliefs (or lack there of in terms of religion) and I'm moderately concerned that our country could become a place in which many places would be difficult if not outright dangerous for me to live in. Shit, Spring Hill already feels like being in an ocean of ignorant rednecks and that's without their ignorance and lack of education being celebrated.

[emby]

AS much as I hate the government I do really love my country, it is not a trope for me. The country looked bad last night, gross actually. And as much as i can't stand Biden, I almost feel badly for him. He's just old. I should be so lucky to live as long as him (spoiler alert: I won't).

He's feeble and weak. Biden did what he set out to do and that was to beat Trump in '20. But that damn hubris (that they all have) wouldn't and won't allow him to step aside.

Both candidates are an embarrassment. It's sad.

If it was anybody other than trump, the country would just shrug and vote for the Republican. Better luck next time, liberals.

But it's not going to be like that is it? Trump wins and he will do a lot of damage and people know it.

Pick your poison.

I have serious concerns Trump will, if not directly end American democracy, but at least lay the framework for it to be done. Project 2025 isn't a joke, and it's kind of terrifying. I love my country, but I don't want to live in a Evangelical Christian theocracy. Literally everything about that runs contrary to my ideology in virtually every way. It destroys all of the things that I do love about this country.

I know a Biden presidency won't end with the dismantling of the United States as we know it and that's honestly all I need to know when the other guy is a malignant narcissist and the party he represents has gone completely off the deep end in to borderline fascism.

The Trump campaign seriously underestimates my willingness to vote for a tomato can.

I'm voting for Biden
Biden's Cabinet
Biden's Executive orders
Two or more Supreme Court Justices
Every infrastructure project in progress
Every antitrust lawsuit in progress
Worker rights
Reproductive rights
Gay Rights
Civil Rights
Due Process of Law
Representative Democracy


The simple abolition of the IRS would collapse the dollar overnight. Which is what these assholes are gunning for with their fuckin cryptoscam.

[The Outsider]

If it was anybody other than trump, the country would just shrug and vote for the Republican. Better luck next time, liberals.

But it's not going to be like that is it? Trump wins and he will do a lot of damage and people know it.

Pick your poison.

I have serious concerns Trump will, if not directly end American democracy, but at least lay the framework for it to be done. Project 2025 isn't a joke, and it's kind of terrifying. I love my country, but I don't want to live in a Evangelical Christian theocracy. Literally everything about that runs contrary to my ideology in virtually every way. It destroys all of the things that I do love about this country.

I know a Biden presidency won't end with the dismantling of the United States as we know it and that's honestly all I need to know when the other guy is a malignant narcissist and the party he represents has gone completely off the deep end in to borderline fascism.

The Trump campaign seriously underestimates my willingness to vote for a tomato can.

I'm voting for Biden
Biden's Cabinet
Biden's Executive orders
Two or more Supreme Court Justices
Every infrastructure project in progress
Every antitrust lawsuit in progress
Worker rights
Reproductive rights
Gay Rights
Civil Rights
Due Process of Law
Representative Democracy


The simple abolition of the IRS would collapse the dollar overnight. Which is what these assholes are gunning for with their fuckin cryptoscam.

I would vote for a literal shit sandwich over Donald Trump.