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Re: Russian invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:47 pm
by kaimaru

Bottom post of the previous page:

They did attack from the north in an attempt to take Kiev. Regarding Biden acting, regardless of what you think of Reagan or Bush Sr, they would have 100% kicked Putin's teeth in

Re: Russian invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:02 am
by deltbucs
emby wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:05 pm I think the Russians are a trailer park with nuclear weapons.
Projecting

Re: Russian invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:21 am
by deltbucs
emby wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 9:59 am
PetePierson wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 9:16 am
emby wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 10:05 pm Second edit: it's not that either. I suppose it's just a question of how long Russia can hold out.
Much longer than Ukraine and the willingness of other countries to piss away billions on a war where the outcome has already been decided.
I don't see it that way. Particularly when you look at the present battle lines.

Putin has been hinting at peace talks but insists on not losing any newly occupied territory and I'm thinking he'll move off that position if Biden is re-elected. I think the goal here should be to get Russia out of Crimea as well as what they've held since this mess all started.
Crimea wants to be part of Russia. Why not let them?

Re: Russian invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 11:36 am
by The Outsider
deltbucs wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:21 am
emby wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 9:59 am
PetePierson wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 9:16 am

Much longer than Ukraine and the willingness of other countries to piss away billions on a war where the outcome has already been decided.
I don't see it that way. Particularly when you look at the present battle lines.

Putin has been hinting at peace talks but insists on not losing any newly occupied territory and I'm thinking he'll move off that position if Biden is re-elected. I think the goal here should be to get Russia out of Crimea as well as what they've held since this mess all started.
Crimea wants to be part of Russia. Why not let them?
Texas wants to secede from the Union. Why not let them? (Actually, yes. Let them. They can have Elmo Muskrat and all of the Cybertrucks they could ever want.)

Re: Russian invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 6:56 pm
by deltbucs
The Outsider wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 11:36 am
deltbucs wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:21 am
emby wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 9:59 am
I don't see it that way. Particularly when you look at the present battle lines.

Putin has been hinting at peace talks but insists on not losing any newly occupied territory and I'm thinking he'll move off that position if Biden is re-elected. I think the goal here should be to get Russia out of Crimea as well as what they've held since this mess all started.
Crimea wants to be part of Russia. Why not let them?
Texas wants to secede from the Union. Why not let them? (Actually, yes. Let them. They can have Elmo Muskrat and all of the Cybertrucks they could ever want.)
If 95% of Texans want to secede from the union, sure.

Re: Russian invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 4:43 am
by emby
deltbucs wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:02 am
emby wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:05 pm I think the Russians are a trailer park with nuclear weapons.
Projecting
What's up, man? Still cheating at golf?

Re: Russian invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:23 am
by deltbucs
emby wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 4:43 am
deltbucs wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:02 am
emby wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:05 pm I think the Russians are a trailer park with nuclear weapons.
Projecting
What's up, man? Still cheating at golf?
If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying! Hoping to cheating my way to club champion, like your boy in South Florida.

I finally just broke down and got my medical card. How's everything with you?

Re: Russian invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:03 pm
by emby
deltbucs wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:23 am
emby wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 4:43 am
deltbucs wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:02 am

Projecting
What's up, man? Still cheating at golf?
If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying! Hoping to cheating my way to club champion, like your boy in South Florida.

I finally just broke down and got my medical card. How's everything with you?
I took up fishing again and I suck at it. But I get to wear cool shirts and hang out at the beach.

Re: Russian invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:35 pm
by The Outsider
deltbucs wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 6:56 pm
The Outsider wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 11:36 am
deltbucs wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:21 am

Crimea wants to be part of Russia. Why not let them?
Texas wants to secede from the Union. Why not let them? (Actually, yes. Let them. They can have Elmo Muskrat and all of the Cybertrucks they could ever want.)
If 95% of Texans want to secede from the union, sure.
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Re: Russian invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:05 pm
by kaimaru
deltbucs wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:21 am
emby wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 9:59 am
PetePierson wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 9:16 am

Much longer than Ukraine and the willingness of other countries to piss away billions on a war where the outcome has already been decided.
I don't see it that way. Particularly when you look at the present battle lines.

Putin has been hinting at peace talks but insists on not losing any newly occupied territory and I'm thinking he'll move off that position if Biden is re-elected. I think the goal here should be to get Russia out of Crimea as well as what they've held since this mess all started.
Crimea wants to be part of Russia. Why not let them?
Russia trucked in 100,000 Russians and either relocated the Ukranians into Russia or they fled into their own country. That is like saying Canada invaded North Dakota and the Americans fled the war or those captured were moved to Ottawa and replaced with Canadians so now it should stay Canadian since they "voted" to be Canadian

Re: Russian invasion of Ukraine

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:33 pm
by deltbucs
kaimaru wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:05 pm
deltbucs wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:21 am
emby wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 9:59 am
I don't see it that way. Particularly when you look at the present battle lines.

Putin has been hinting at peace talks but insists on not losing any newly occupied territory and I'm thinking he'll move off that position if Biden is re-elected. I think the goal here should be to get Russia out of Crimea as well as what they've held since this mess all started.
Crimea wants to be part of Russia. Why not let them?
Russia trucked in 100,000 Russians and either relocated the Ukranians into Russia or they fled into their own country. That is like saying Canada invaded North Dakota and the Americans fled the war or those captured were moved to Ottawa and replaced with Canadians so now it should stay Canadian since they "voted" to be Canadian
I'm not sure I know what you're referring to regarding 100k Russians trucked in. When was this?

Crimea is and has been mostly Russians for a long time.