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Re: Is it still too soon to call this race for Biden?

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 4:53 pm
by emby

Bottom post of the previous page:

Any man that is driven to be in national politics for damn near a half of century as well as runs for the highest office in the land 3x, the last time of which he's near death is evil, power hungry and ego driven.
Trump has been associated with the word "President" as far back as 1988 and you know it.
Biden wants to regulate almost every aspect of my life.
Citation Needed
Paying for food, housing, travel, medical, schooling etc.. to people who havent kicked in even a fucking dime?
They're going to end up doing more hard work in a month than you did in your toughest year. Quit bitching.
But I dig what Javier Milei is doing in Argentina
You should go down there and check it out for yourself.
Already, as a result of the Milei’s policies, every week conditions of poverty and insecurity worsen for Argentine workers. Already, the share of the population living poverty exceeds that at the height of the 1998 depression (42 percent). Over 60 percent of the population of the country is in poverty, without the means of purchasing food, transportation, clothing and medicines—27 million out of a population of 45 million. Young workers are being pushed out, forced to emigrate by conditions of extreme poverty and lack of decent employment.

The number of temporary and contingent workers on hunger wages in Argentina now exceeds 5 million, out of a total labor force of 21 million. Less than 40 percent of workers are organized in trade unions.

By every measure, socioeconomic inequality has exploded in the last six months. Wages are unable to keep up with inflation—according to the National Catholic University (UCA), relative to 2023 the monthly household “bread basket” in January was 596,000 pesos (700 US dollars), the equivalent of 3.8 monthly minimum wages. Under those conditions, households have trouble reaching the end of the month and are being forced out of their homes. They are going without food, potable water, sewers and adequate housing, particularly in the northwestern provinces of the country. “Villas Miserias, shanty town encampments for the homeless, are expanding across Buenos Aires, and other urban areas.
It's no wonder people from central and south America are running north from the motherfuckers sent by these John Birch, Nazi collaborating motherfuckers who destabilized their countries with their bullshit economics and empty promises of freedom for the last 100 years.


You know how liberals talk about conservative voters voting against their own interests? I know tensions are a bit high at the moment but I can explain what they mean by that.

Re: Is it still too soon to call this race for Biden?

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 5:08 pm
by PetePierson
Right, they are going to do more work than I have in a month. Ok. Christ. Let me guess, you work at the CBO. Is this why so many countries all over the world don't secure their borders and give everyone a free ride? Things are looking fan-fucking-tastic in England, France, Ireland & Italy with all the recent cultural enrichment.

I get it, you hate your own race. Again, that's your right.

And please don't try and school me on Argentina and Milei.

So Biden is not pushing hard and using every trick in the book for the GND even though it didn't make it through congress? Petroleum Reserve is looking good. Just released what? Another 100 million barrels on top of the 181 million a few years ago? Maybe Joey didn't kill pipelines and allow Iran to sell gazillions to China, there wouldn't be a problem? My bad, the Ole Fuck is a savvy statesmen that is really smart and can do no wrong?

Push to get away from natural gas and not even address nuclear? No, he's not telling us how to live at all?

All the IRS bullshit, wants to regulate bitcoin, audit any transaction that's a measly $600. No, we're not moving towards social credit scores at all. Freedom Baby!

Re: Is it still too soon to call this race for Biden?

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 5:26 pm
by PetePierson
Fuck it. I'm in a mood and my absolute hatred for Biden really shows when I'm not feeling well.

You still can get my blood up, Comrade. Kudos.


But still hope Joey joins his son (the good one) while I'm still upright.

Re: Is it still too soon to call this race for Biden?

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:23 pm
by The Outsider
PetePierson wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 4:27 pm
The Outsider wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 4:05 pm
I don't think Biden is evil or tyrannical. You and I have wildly different opinions on what tyranny is. I view tyranny as any government that will subvert core personal freedoms, marginalize the most vulnerable subsets of our society, and destroy our democracy. Taxes are not inherently tyrannical. Being tolerant towards minorities and other out groups is not tyrannical. Allowing non-Christians to have freedom to practice their religion is not tyranny.

I really don't know what the government could do that wouldn't be tyrannical to you except for ceasing to exist, which would be catastrophic since most of us are as dumb as a box of rocks.
Any man that is driven to be in national politics for damn near a half of century as well as runs for the highest office in the land 3x, the last time of which he's near death is evil, power hungry and ego driven.

And he is a nasty fuck behind closed doors, always has been. At least Trump doesn't pretend to care. But we are to believe Joey is a kind Ole Man with a good soul. Ok.

And yes, we do view tyranny differently. At least stop telling me this is the most important race in our history (again) and democracy is at stake when Biden wants to regulate almost every aspect of my life. That's not freedom either.

And I don't give a shit who crosses our border legally & the right way. But to open the borders to •10 MM illegal aliens in less than 4 years and put all of it on the tax payers tab? Paying for food, housing, travel, medical, schooling etc.. to people who havent kicked in even a fucking dime? And if they walked 1k miles through rough terrain.
Why the fuck are they already as fat as Americans? I am told they are fleeing countries with no food and extreme poverty?
You want to call me racist or a bigot? That is your right & not going to die on that hill.
They can all get fucked.

I'm not naive enough to believe there will ever be no government without a nuclear holocaust or zombie apocalypse. But I dig what Javier Milei is doing in Argentina. Slashing the state and reducing inflation by what? 20% in MONTHS. He sure is fuck not telling me to get a POS fireball waiting to happen EV, setting up bullshit windfarms while destroying wildlife and ironically the environment & sea life. But you've heard my Schick too many times already.
The bolded part of your post patently untrue. You're entitled to your opinions. I just happen to believe differently. I'm not going to do the research to rebut your points about immigrants because I honestly don't really care. Immigration, legal or otherwise, has had virtually no impact on me for the past 37 years and I don't really see it happening. Well, aside from the fat thing. One thing that's pretty commonly accepted is the fact that the cheaper food is the more processed it is and the more likely it is to contain high fructose corn syrup. People in poor countries, unless they're rural or farmers themselves, eat a ton of processed garbage food because it's the cheapest shit you can buy.

And no one is telling you to get a Cybertruck, outside of those EV's have pretty damn good track records even Teslas though their quality has gone downhill the last several years. The F-150 Lightning is a really fucking nice truck. The Chevy Volt was a great car, the Ioniq by Hyundai is also a good car. Windfarms don't have a significant impact on any wildlife. They don't kill birds and in the sea the artificial structure actually benefits sea life as it creates an artificial reef ecosystem.

Dude in Argentina could pull that off because Argentina had been turbo-fucked for almost 20 years until he took office. They didn't really have a choice to do anything other than what they're doing. The US economy is not in bad shape at all. In fact it's had some of the best growth in recent history. What has happened is that during the pandemic corporations started to price creep, and then that was compounded by inflation (largely Trump's fault. The economic stimulus was small change, the real damage came from the extremely loosely regulated PPP loans that Biden cracked down on when he came into office.) and they're only just starting to come back down some as consumers are spending less.

It's easy to point at things and declare that they're great and what we should do when lacking key contextual information that actually shows that what is going on there versus our situation being extremely different. That's when you realize that no, austerity measures are 100% unnecessary when we could generate enough revenue to pay for all of our social programs and then some by simplifying the tax code and eliminating loop holes. I'm not even talking about raising taxes. Just make it so that ultra-wealthy cocksuckers and massive corporations can't play the shell game with their money to minimize their tax exposure.

Re: Is it still too soon to call this race for Biden?

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:26 pm
by The Outsider
PetePierson wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 5:26 pm Fuck it. I'm in a mood and my absolute hatred for Biden really shows when I'm not feeling well.

You still can get my blood up, Comrade. Kudos.


But still hope Joey joins his son (the good one) while I'm still upright.
Hunter did drugs and something stupid with a firearm. If this were a bible verse I wouldn't be throwing the first stone if you know what I'm sayin.

Re: Is it still too soon to call this race for Biden?

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:37 pm
by PetePierson
The Outsider wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:26 pm

Hunter did drugs and something stupid with a firearm. If this were a bible verse I wouldn't be throwing the first stone if you know what I'm sayin.
Shit, that stuff plus the tax evasion makes him a more based Libertarian than I. But not ok with fucking your dead brothers wife and getting her hooked on crack. Same with the shit he pulled with the stripper in Arkansas and the little girl that Joey the Family Man ignored the majority of her life.

Hunter is a privileged douche... everything you hate when the dude has a R next to his name.

Re: Is it still too soon to call this race for Biden?

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:58 pm
by PetePierson
Sorry, on phone so not quoting:
The Biden administration on Wednesday issued one of the most significant climate regulations in the nation's history, a rule designed to ensure that the majority of new passenger cars and light trucks sold in the United States are all-electric or hybrids by 2032.
And as cool as the Lightning is (and being genuine, it's a sharp truck). The CEO of Ford took a road trip with his family in one a few months ago. Even he admitted that it's not nearly as practical as it needs to be. x2 if you are towing anything of semi significant weight.

Already mentioned Ghey Pete has built 7 or 8 of the 500k public charging stations promised by 2030. Oh by the way, there are many independent reports penned by the "experts" that are seriously concerned the current grid can't handle all of that demand. Not to mention, where are we getting all of this electricity? Please... oh please say; "Wind".

Re: Is it still too soon to call this race for Biden?

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:48 pm
by emby
PetePierson wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 5:08 pm I get it, you hate your own race. Again, that's your right.
We have plenty of time to talk about the other stuff. If you wanna go round and round tonight I want to do it about this one because it's a chance for me to carve out a demon.


Do me a favor for the sake of this discussion and define for me what exactly the white race is because I have no idea.

Re: Is it still too soon to call this race for Biden?

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 9:14 pm
by PetePierson
emby wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:48 pm
We have plenty of time to talk about the other stuff. If you wanna go round and round tonight I want to do it about this one because it's a chance for me to carve out a demon.


Do me a favor for the sake of this discussion and define for me what exactly the white race is because I have no idea.
My pseudo ex wants to stop by so that should put me in a better mood. Ha! Seriously, may be on and offline but will reply eventually.

You actually got me. I don't have a strong non-obvious response or definition. White / Caucasian men have done a lot of bad shit since humanity began, no argument. But so did Genghis Khan, Pol Pot, Africans selling their own into slavery, Warlords starving their own people, native Americans were savage to rival tribes. Prior to the Civil War, how many white slave owners were there? Less than 3% of the total population, I believe.

This in no way excuses the practice or the atrocities they committed. But over 350k white men lost their lives fighting to end the institution. Another ~250k Confederate. My numbers may be a little low but you get the point.

Yet (and it may just be my echo chamber) but I'm over the white man being blamed for all the ills in the history of the world. Especially since I didn't do shit. Neither did my father or Papi. I don't owe anyone a God Damned thing. And I think a lot of men in my demo are over being the bad guy.

Don't you (in genral) dare tell me it's not enough to not be racist. The social norm is I have to be anti and an ally? Get Fucked with that noise. Same with reparations.

Re: Is it still too soon to call this race for Biden?

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 9:19 pm
by emby
Hot take: Race is a social construct

Re: Is it still too soon to call this race for Biden?

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:03 am
by PetePierson
emby wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 9:19 pm Hot take: Race is a social construct
You're just fucking with me now. Are you saying my peepers have been deceiving me for damn near half a century? There is no difference in melatonin levels? No cultural differences amongst these different shades / parts of the world?

You're going to lose your Lib Card since your team makes evrry fucking single issue about race.

In the last few years I've learned from Ghey Pete that even large swads of assault & concrete are racist.

Come on, Man!