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PetePierson wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:42 am

emby wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:41 pm

PetePierson wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:12 pm

Tough to grow a political party purely organically. Aren't we all looking for numbers?

And look what just happened. The third party aligned with one of the duopoly and became a constituency.

They were led right to where they were dying to go.

It's why the DSA is a nonstarter for the left. Upside for you is all you gotta do is play nice with the Jesus freaks and their genital mutilation rituals.

Not sure I would go with gender mutilation rituals insults with either party.

I don't feel like I was led anywhere. And no one will be surprised when Trump doesn't keep his word.

Look how poorly Chase did compared to Johnson (who did very well for a Libertarian candidate) & Jorgenson in '20. All these numbers are small to everyone else but getting close to 5% of the national vote is enough for me.

Again, I don't expect an LP POTUS ever. But with elections being fairly close recently, it's enough to negotiate.

And youre fucking bananas if you don't think the LP will turn on Trump in a second and throw support to a Dem. Yeah, we have to be whores to have any sort of influence bc the system is so ranked against 3rd parties.

PetePierson wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 2:28 pm I don't think the Dems are "destroyed" but they need to decide if they are finally going to be progressive or more left or simply back to center.

A foot in each camp is not going to work with that group.

emby wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 3:45 pm

PetePierson wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 2:28 pm I don't think the Dems are "destroyed" but they need to decide if they are finally going to be progressive or more left or simply back to center.

A foot in each camp is not going to work with that group.

What good will it do when the price of gas craters by a third and I don't have to pay income tax anymore?

PetePierson wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 3:51 pm

emby wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 3:45 pm

PetePierson wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 2:28 pm I don't think the Dems are "destroyed" but they need to decide if they are finally going to be progressive or more left or simply back to center.

A foot in each camp is not going to work with that group.

What good will it do when the price of gas craters by a third and I don't have to pay income tax anymore?

Are people still complaining about fuel prices? They've been pretty low since before the debate.

Would not paying income tax upset you? I'm sure you could still send Uncle Sam money if you wanted.

PetePierson wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:37 pm Not at all what I'm saying. But fuel cost arguments are disingenuous. Stop fighting me the few times that we agree.