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emby wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 4:53 am

deltbucs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 9:59 am You guys really think Genocide Joe is going to beat out 'ol President Orange Face? I don't see it. All I see is Biden losing supporters.

I laid it all down here in this thread.

It's gonna be a blowout.

deltbucs wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:43 am

emby wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 4:53 am

deltbucs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 9:59 am You guys really think Genocide Joe is going to beat out 'ol President Orange Face? I don't see it. All I see is Biden losing supporters.

I laid it all down here in this thread.

It's gonna be a blowout.

I'll go back and scan through it, but I disagree...bigly.

You know I wouldn't be caught dead voting for either of those pieces of shit.

We've had 4 years of Biden doing Trump shit. Same kids in cages, more oil drilling, same tax policy, not a peep about Healthcare. Of course the biggest thing that's going to hurt him is the aiding in the genocide of the Palestinians. That's going to cost him a lot of votes...especially young people.

Again, I'll go back and scan through the thread, so you don't have to repeat yourself, but that's what I'm seeing.

deltbucs wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:43 am

emby wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 4:53 am

deltbucs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 9:59 am You guys really think Genocide Joe is going to beat out 'ol President Orange Face? I don't see it. All I see is Biden losing supporters.

I laid it all down here in this thread.

It's gonna be a blowout.

I'll go back and scan through it, but I disagree...bigly.

You know I wouldn't be caught dead voting for either of those pieces of shit.

We've had 4 years of Biden doing Trump shit. Same kids in cages, more oil drilling, same tax policy, not a peep about Healthcare. Of course the biggest thing that's going to hurt him is the aiding in the genocide of the Palestinians. That's going to cost him a lot of votes...especially young people.

Again, I'll go back and scan through the thread, so you don't have to repeat yourself, but that's what I'm seeing.

deltbucs wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:43 am

emby wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 4:53 am

deltbucs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 9:59 am You guys really think Genocide Joe is going to beat out 'ol President Orange Face? I don't see it. All I see is Biden losing supporters.

I laid it all down here in this thread.

It's gonna be a blowout.

I'll go back and scan through it, but I disagree...bigly.

You know I wouldn't be caught dead voting for either of those pieces of shit.

We've had 4 years of Biden doing Trump shit. Same kids in cages, more oil drilling, same tax policy, not a peep about Healthcare. Of course the biggest thing that's going to hurt him is the aiding in the genocide of the Palestinians. That's going to cost him a lot of votes...especially young people.

Again, I'll go back and scan through the thread, so you don't have to repeat yourself, but that's what I'm seeing.

The Outsider wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:35 pm

emby wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:06 pm

deltbucs wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:43 am

emby wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 4:53 am
I laid it all down here in this thread.

It's gonna be a blowout.

I'll go back and scan through it, but I disagree...bigly.

You know I wouldn't be caught dead voting for either of those pieces of shit.

We've had 4 years of Biden doing Trump shit. Same kids in cages, more oil drilling, same tax policy, not a peep about Healthcare. Of course the biggest thing that's going to hurt him is the aiding in the genocide of the Palestinians. That's going to cost him a lot of votes...especially young people.

Again, I'll go back and scan through the thread, so you don't have to repeat yourself, but that's what I'm seeing.

Doing all these things and still managing to do the thing that he was elected to do.

deltbucs wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:44 pm

emby wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:06 pm

deltbucs wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:43 am

I'll go back and scan through it, but I disagree...bigly.

You know I wouldn't be caught dead voting for either of those pieces of shit.

We've had 4 years of Biden doing Trump shit. Same kids in cages, more oil drilling, same tax policy, not a peep about Healthcare. Of course the biggest thing that's going to hurt him is the aiding in the genocide of the Palestinians. That's going to cost him a lot of votes...especially young people.

Again, I'll go back and scan through the thread, so you don't have to repeat yourself, but that's what I'm seeing.

Doing all these things and still managing to do the thing that he was elected to do.

Ah yes, nicer tweets.

emby wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:16 pm

PetePierson wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:54 pm

emby wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:55 am The reduction of out of control covid spending has not reduced the deficit a trillion from 2021?

Reducing spending lowers the deficit. So does raising taxes.

You lost me.

A lot has happened to me in the last 14-15 months, not much of it good. So, I've made a real effort towards trying to be less abrasive, engage in a more honest, civil dialogue, no booze in like 450 days... like a real mid-life inventory type deal. And yes, I expect to be mercilessly flamed for admitting this.

Yet, I feel like you are prodding Banner for the Hulk to return and we all know it won't take much.

I am not giving credit to Joey (nor would I for Trump) for the end of the Covid Regime and subsequent spending. The flu ran it's course for a few years, ppl got beyond sick of the tyrannically policies and decided to leave their homes and go back to work. Biden was simply the imbecile in change when the plebs finally had enough and natural immunity reached the critical mass necessary.

Pete, I am glad you're here because it gives me someone else to talk to online. I'm also glad that you're getting healthy even though you probably still have the Nick Nolte mugshot hair.

If I want to dunk on somebody I don't respect for a bad political take, It's a dumb fuck's life(c) is a mere click away.

I'm just telling you the way I see things, Offering up the liberal tripe I actually read and watch, and generally fuck around until the season gets going and we have more shit to talk about.


I haven't quit drinking yet, but....



Willie let him play Trigger. That's huge.

emby wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 6:57 am

deltbucs wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 7:44 pm

emby wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:06 pm
Doing all these things and still managing to do the thing that he was elected to do.

Ah yes, nicer tweets.

Way funnier

emby wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:26 pm Just recapping why I'm so damned confident despite it all. Here's how I get there.

First thing we look at is the 2020 map. and we remember where it was close.



Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania with North Carolina and Florida within 5%.

Jan 6th happens, Dobbs happens.

2022 elections and Democrats win statewide campaigns in Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania. Republicans win in Nevada, North Carolina and Florida.

Trump gets indicted.

2023 Democrat wins statewide race in Kentucky. Republicans win in Louisiana and Mississippi

These statewide election results are the only polls you can really trust and if we're left to only these irrefutable data points with which to read the tealeaves, there's nothing in any of the results in statewide elections since 2020 that would indicate to me some sort of momentum on the right. If anything, it's more of a stalemate at the 2020 map that's trending blue and that is of course, bad for Trump.


Let's go ahead and dispense with any notion that this race is going to be anything close to being a referendum on Biden. Trump's ego is so fucking big that he won't let it be. What's he gonna do? have a policy debate with Joe Biden? Is Donald Trump going to differentiate himself from the status quo on such hot topics as Ukarane, Gaza, Taiwan, and the Houthis?

Can Trump look the American people in the eye and say he's got the answer for inflation and win an election? Not a chance. He's too busy bitching about getting due processed.

All he's got is his brand and his grievances and that's what he's running on. It's old and stale and fractured.

How fractured?

vote percentage for Nikki Hayley:


NV: 30% Won without Trump on the ballot in a battleground state.
SC: 40% Her home state
NC: 23% <-----battleground state
GA: 13% <-----battleground state
AZ: 17% <-----battleground state
FL: 13% <-----battleground state
PA: 16% <-----battleground state

Those are vote tallies in swing state primary elections that are less than two months old. About one in five Republicans ain't happy with trump enough to send him back in there to save his own skin. So after the conviction last week when that shock poll came out that said Trump lost 30% of republicans and half of independents...It might not be that far off.





So Joe Biden is over there getting older and a little more gone. He's not as bad off as the right lets on, but he's old. This will be his last campaign and thank God for that, but that campaign has 154 days in which to spend $192 million on persuading those disenfranchised republicans to finally hang Donald Trump out to dry so we can all move on.


Gonna be a bloodbath.

deltbucs wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 3:22 pm

emby wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:26 pm Just recapping why I'm so damned confident despite it all. Here's how I get there.

First thing we look at is the 2020 map. and we remember where it was close.



Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania with North Carolina and Florida within 5%.

Jan 6th happens, Dobbs happens.

2022 elections and Democrats win statewide campaigns in Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania. Republicans win in Nevada, North Carolina and Florida.

Trump gets indicted.

2023 Democrat wins statewide race in Kentucky. Republicans win in Louisiana and Mississippi

These statewide election results are the only polls you can really trust and if we're left to only these irrefutable data points with which to read the tealeaves, there's nothing in any of the results in statewide elections since 2020 that would indicate to me some sort of momentum on the right. If anything, it's more of a stalemate at the 2020 map that's trending blue and that is of course, bad for Trump.


Let's go ahead and dispense with any notion that this race is going to be anything close to being a referendum on Biden. Trump's ego is so fucking big that he won't let it be. What's he gonna do? have a policy debate with Joe Biden? Is Donald Trump going to differentiate himself from the status quo on such hot topics as Ukarane, Gaza, Taiwan, and the Houthis?

Can Trump look the American people in the eye and say he's got the answer for inflation and win an election? Not a chance. He's too busy bitching about getting due processed.

All he's got is his brand and his grievances and that's what he's running on. It's old and stale and fractured.

How fractured?

vote percentage for Nikki Hayley:


NV: 30% Won without Trump on the ballot in a battleground state.
SC: 40% Her home state
NC: 23% <-----battleground state
GA: 13% <-----battleground state
AZ: 17% <-----battleground state
FL: 13% <-----battleground state
PA: 16% <-----battleground state

Those are vote tallies in swing state primary elections that are less than two months old. About one in five Republicans ain't happy with trump enough to send him back in there to save his own skin. So after the conviction last week when that shock poll came out that said Trump lost 30% of republicans and half of independents...It might not be that far off.





So Joe Biden is over there getting older and a little more gone. He's not as bad off as the right lets on, but he's old. This will be his last campaign and thank God for that, but that campaign has 154 days in which to spend $192 million on persuading those disenfranchised republicans to finally hang Donald Trump out to dry so we can all move on.


Gonna be a bloodbath.

I appreciate you putting this out there, but I still disagree. Personally, I've voted democrats in state and local elections and haven't voted for one for president since Obama's first term. A lot of the young voung voters will vote dem for almost everything, but they aren't voting for Genocide Joe.

Trump voters aren't going to be turned away by him getting convicted for the exact same thing that Hillary and the dems got busted for and just had to pay a fine. This is the type of shit that's turning more people to actually vote for him.

We'll have to agree to disagree for now.