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PetePierson wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:29 pm

emby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:21 pm I think all the talk about 2.0 comes from there.

I won't connect all the dots for you because at the end of the day it's really just the root basis for the argument for this or that policy rather than looking at it on its face.

Like how there was no call to abolish the Federal Department of Education until the schools were desegregated. You may take a different approach because you don't want transsexual story time or some form statist indoctrination, but you absolutely have common cause with the neoconfederates who despise the economic, cultural, and academic elite.

I don't know about the "abolish the Dept of Education" being a new rallying cry. Seems like a pretty basic Librarian view. I mean, wasn't the US #1 in education up until 1976? When was the DoE created? I am sure it is just a coincidence.

Neo-Confederates? I am assuming this is just your term for every white person ever?

No, it's a thing. When you do all this reading about fascism and white supremacy the gears start turning.

When LBJ signed the civil rights act he said "We have lost the south for a generation." for this reason.

emby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:37 pm When LBJ signed the civil rights act he said "We have lost the south for a generation." for this reason.

I get it, I think everyone does. When the state forces a large group of people to change their fundamental values (whether they be right, wrong or indifferent), people are going to be bent for a long time.

PetePierson wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 1:17 pm

emby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:37 pm When LBJ signed the civil rights act he said "We have lost the south for a generation." for this reason.

I get it, I think everyone does. When the state forces a large group of people to change their fundamental values (whether they be right, wrong or indifferent), people are going to be bent for a long time.

So much so that they would be willing to question the legitimacy of the republic itself.

emby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 1:25 pm So much so that they would be willing to question the legitimacy of the republic itself.

I wish a day went by that I didn't question that very same thing.

PetePierson wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 1:26 pm

emby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 1:25 pm So much so that they would be willing to question the legitimacy of the republic itself.

I wish a day went by that I didn't question that very same thing.

It's all baked into the politics. Think of the archetype republican voter. Now think of a Democrat voter.

I bet your republican was more masculine, southern, white, and more clever than intelligent.

I bet your democrat is more feminine, dressed for cold weather, and overeducated regardless of race or sex.


Northern egghead thinks they can tell southern tough guy how its gonna be? Hell naw!

emby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 1:36 pm It's all baked into the politics. Think of the archetype republican voter. Now think of a Democrat voter.

I bet your republican was more masculine, southern, white, and more clever than intelligent.

I bet your democrat is more feminine, dressed for cold weather, and overeducated regardless of race or sex.


Northern egghead thinks they can tell southern tough guy how its gonna be? Hell naw!

I don't think either of those descriptions are too far off for the vast base. Stereotypes do exist for a reason and not just "-isms".

This morning, I was getting an infusion for 2 hours. July 5th, I spend 13 hours in an ER. July 19th I was told to go back to the ER.
I have a procedure scheduled next Tuesday and scans (sonogram, CT, MRI) to be done every 3 months for the rest of my life.

TLDR: I am no longer physically stronger than anyone. And if it weren't for what it would do to my folks, I would take care of things myself.
And what I've come to realize, is ppl in my situation are the ones to be scared of and no one talks about them.

Strange.

PetePierson wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 1:52 pm

emby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 1:36 pm It's all baked into the politics. Think of the archetype republican voter. Now think of a Democrat voter.

I bet your republican was more masculine, southern, white, and more clever than intelligent.

I bet your democrat is more feminine, dressed for cold weather, and overeducated regardless of race or sex.


Northern egghead thinks they can tell southern tough guy how its gonna be? Hell naw!

I don't think either of those descriptions are too far off for the vast base. Stereotypes do exist for a reason and not just "-isms".

This morning, I was getting an infusion for 2 hours. July 5th, I spend 13 hours in an ER. July 19th I was told to go back to the ER.
I have a procedure scheduled next Tuesday and scans (sonogram, CT, MRI) to be done every 3 months for the rest of my life.

TLDR: I am no longer physically stronger than anyone. And if it weren't for what it would do to my folks, I would take care of things myself.
And what I've come to realize, is ppl in my situation are the ones to be scared of and no one talks about them.

Strange.

The medical situation or people with nothing to lose?

emby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 2:03 pm The medical situation or people with nothing to lose?

The latter, mostly. I believe (possibly naively) that the majority of "extremists" on both sides are doing some odd Edge Lord - Shit Posting Cosplay on most of the major platforms. After what the State did to those "violent insurrectionists"; the majority who just walked through the nation's capitol?

If they have even a semblance of self-awareness; no one is going to try that shit again no matter how obvious an election is rigged.


And those serious people, will just continue to be as self sufficient as possible in rural areas. That's one great thing about this country; the lower 48 (and Alaska) are massive in terms of mileage / acreage. Those smart enough to do this are also smart enough not to engage in actual combat.

But believe or at least hope that there is always a simmer with them. Just need to be pushed a little further.

"A government so small it fits in your bedroom."

Not really a Dave Smith guy any longer but more people should take this approach (myself included).