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[emby]

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Something has to give. This can't go on much longer.

[The Outsider]

Something has to give. This can't go on much longer.

The only thing that will stop this is killing Nazis in the street, but we're too soft of a country to do the right thing.

[PetePierson]

The Gaza statement / idea is flat out retarded. If we are going to cut USAID (which 56% of Americans approve per Reuters); Ukraine & Isreal DoD funding need to be pulled as well.

Definitely will never learn our lesson of the cost of being Team America : World Police.

[The Outsider]

The Gaza statement / idea is flat out retarded. If we are going to cut USAID (which 56% of Americans approve per Reuters); Ukraine & Isreal DoD funding need to be pulled as well.

Definitely will never learn our lesson of the cost of being Team America : World Police.

56% of Americans can't read, so fuck them. I agree, the Gaza idea is stupid as fuck and we fund Israel way too much. However, cutting USAID, even ignoring Ukraine and how important supporting them is, will eliminate a shit load of positive and effective humanitarian programs around the world.

The answer to the American expenditure problem has been and always will be a combination of two things: taxes on corporations and the ultra-wealthy being too low; and military expenditure, primarily the untold billions that are spent on off-the-books black projects.

Stop buying the narrative, Pete, you're too smart for that.

[PetePierson]

The Gaza statement / idea is flat out retarded. If we are going to cut USAID (which 56% of Americans approve per Reuters); Ukraine & Isreal DoD funding need to be pulled as well.

Definitely will never learn our lesson of the cost of being Team America : World Police.

56% of Americans can't read, so fuck them. I agree, the Gaza idea is stupid as fuck and we fund Israel way too much. However, cutting USAID, even ignoring Ukraine and how important supporting them is, will eliminate a shit load of positive and effective humanitarian programs around the world.

The answer to the American expenditure problem has been and always will be a combination of two things: taxes on corporations and the ultra-wealthy being too low; and military expenditure, primarily the untold billions that are spent on off-the-books black projects.

Stop buying the narrative, Pete, you're too smart for that.

Looking around at Gaza, Africa, South America, areas of Southeast Asia, and many other parts of the world; the levels of extreme poverty are difficult to view let alone imagine what those people are going through.

There is so much information out there and I really don't know what is accurate or complete bullshit. But if any of this is even close to accurate, I get why people are pissed off.

— $7.9 million to teach Sri Lankan journalists how to avoid “binary-gendered language”

— $20 million for a new Sesame Street show in Iraq

— $4.5+ million to “combat disinformation” in Kazakhstan

— $1.5 million for “art for inclusion of people with disabilities”

— $2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala

— $6 million to “transform digital spaces to reflect feminist democratic principles”

— $2.1 million to help the BBC “value the diversity of Libyan society”

— $10 million worth of USAID-funded meals, which went to an al Qaeda-linked terrorist group

— $25 million for Deloitte to promote “green transportation” in the country of Georgia

— $6 million for tourism in Egypt

— $2.5 million to promote “inclusion” in Vietnam

— $16.8 million for a SEPARATE “inclusion” group in Vietnam

— ~$5 million to EcoHealth Alliance, one of the key NGOs funding bat virus research at the Wuhan lab

— $20 million for a group related to a key player in the Russiagate impeachment hoax

— $1.1 million to an Armenian “LGBT group”

— $1.2 million to help the African Methodist Episcopal Church Service and Development Agency in Washington, D.C., build “a state-of-the-art 440 seat auditorium”

— $1.3 million to Arab and Jewish photographers

— $1.5 million to promote “LGBT advocacy” in Jamaica

— $1.5 million to “rebuild” the Cuban media ecosystem

— $2 million to promote “LGBT equality through entrepreneurship” in Latin America

— $500K to solve sectarian violence in Israel (just ten days before the Hamas October 7 attack)

— $2.3 million for “artisanal and small scale gold mining” in the Amazon

— $3.9 million for “LGBT causes” in the western Balkans

— $5.5 million for LGBT activism in Uganda

— $6 million for advancing LGBT issues in “priority countries around the world”

— $6.3 million for men who have sex with men in South Africa

— $8.3 million for “USAID Education: Equity and Inclusion”

[The Outsider]

That's all chump change in the scope of the US Treasury. Add all that up and it doesn't even cover an infrastructure grant for high speed rail in Florida.

You know how much we lose out on taxes from corps and the ultra-wealthy?

In 2024, billionaire wealth increased by $1.4 trillion OR $3.9 billion per day. There were 74 new billionaires.

According to a 2021 White House study, the wealthiest 400 billionaire families in the U.S. paid an average federal individual tax rate of just 8.2 percent. For comparison, the average American taxpayer in the same year paid 13 percent.

According to leaked tax returns highlighted in a ProPublica investigation, the 25 richest Americans paid $13.6 billion in taxes from 2014-2018—a “true” tax rate of just 3.4 percent on $401 billion of income.

According to the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, 23 of the largest and most profitable companies in the US paid no federal corporate income taxes from 2018-2022. And 109 corporations paid zero federal tax in at least one of those years.

The US government is estimated to have lost around $135 billion in revenue due to corporate tax avoidance in 2017. In contrast, corporate philanthropy has amounted to less than $20 billion a year.

Corporations shifted nearly $1 trillion in global profits to tax havens in 2022—depriving countries all over the world of desperately needed tax revenue.

Stop letting the billionaire owned media feed you talking points.

Also, arguing against pro-LGBT programs in countries that have horrendous conditions for us is probably not a good one to use with me.

[PetePierson]

The amounts really aren't the point IMO. How long has the US been sending foreign aid around the world? How many gazillions in the last decade alone? Are we seeing real benefits from this investment?

I'm a large proponent of getting your own house in order before looking to help others.

And you'll get no argument from me that the tax codes are completely fucked up & backwards. But say we tax the shit out of every single corporation, how does that go for the rest of us? Those costs will just be passed down, jobs lost and the little guy fucked yet again.

[PetePierson]

And to your the point the electorate is retarded, no argument. I believe both of you are vehemently against Voter ID, so I'm guessing you would also not approve of a very basic civics quiz to register to vote?

[emby]

The Gaza statement / idea is flat out retarded. If we are going to cut USAID (which 56% of Americans approve per Reuters); Ukraine & Isreal DoD funding need to be pulled as well.

Definitely will never learn our lesson of the cost of being Team America : World Police.

America first lasted what, two and a half weeks?

[PetePierson]

The Gaza statement / idea is flat out retarded. If we are going to cut USAID (which 56% of Americans approve per Reuters); Ukraine & Isreal DoD funding need to be pulled as well.

Definitely will never learn our lesson of the cost of being Team America : World Police.

America first lasted what, two and a half weeks?

It's wild. Why we are such a cuck for Isreal, I'll never understand.

[emby]

The Gaza statement / idea is flat out retarded. If we are going to cut USAID (which 56% of Americans approve per Reuters); Ukraine & Isreal DoD funding need to be pulled as well.

Definitely will never learn our lesson of the cost of being Team America : World Police.

America first lasted what, two and a half weeks?

It's wild. Why we are such a cuck for Isreal, I'll never understand.

Jesus freaks hoping the Jews bring about the return of Christ.

Arms sales to the tune of billions with free field tests on human targets.

AIPAC money takes out anti-israel members of Congress.

White guilt exploitation because antisemitism is real.

Zionist American Jews as a voting block.

And in the case of trump, about a half billion in cash.