Is it still too soon to call this race for Harris?

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Anecdote...

New York's top court allows a proposed amendment on the November ballot to prevent discrimination based on gender identity and pregnancy outcomes.
The Court of Appeals upheld the lower court's ruling, stating no significant constitutional concerns were at stake.
Democrats anticipate the 'equal rights' amendment will boost their voter turnout by emphasizing it as safeguarding abortion rights.

Codifying Roe is on the New York ballot. New York is not in play.

[The Outsider]

https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/a ... -president

Former Vice President Joe Biden has reportedly indicated that he would only serve for one term if elected to the presidency.

Several sources within the Biden campaign told Politico that the 2020 Democratic candidate would not run for reelection in 2024, when he would be 82 years old.

A 2020 front-runner, Biden, has faced questions about his age and fitness to serve in the White House.

Campaign advisers argue that announcing his intention to only serve one term and signalling that he will choose a younger running mate and cabinet would increase Biden's chances of being the Democratic nominee.

"This makes Biden a good transition figure," the adviser said, while another said Biden wants to find a running mate that he "can turn things over to after four years."

"He's going into this thinking, 'I want to find a running mate I can turn things over to after four years but if that's not possible or doesn't happen then I'll run for re-election.' But he's not going to publicly make a one term pledge," another adviser told Politico.

Asked in October if he would only serve one term if elected, the former vice president told the Associated Press that he wouldn't make that promise but he wasn't deeply committed to seeking a second term.

"I feel good and all I can say is, watch me, you'll see," Biden said. "It doesn't mean I would run a second term. I'm not going to make that judgment at this moment."

Biden, currently 77 years old, is among several candidates 70 and older. Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont is 78 years old and would be 79 upon taking office. Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is months away from turning 78 and another front-runner, Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, is 70 years old.

In our political landscape that's more or less a declaration.

[The Outsider]

Anecdote...

New York's top court allows a proposed amendment on the November ballot to prevent discrimination based on gender identity and pregnancy outcomes.
The Court of Appeals upheld the lower court's ruling, stating no significant constitutional concerns were at stake.
Democrats anticipate the 'equal rights' amendment will boost their voter turnout by emphasizing it as safeguarding abortion rights.

Codifying Roe is on the New York ballot. New York is not in play.

Good. Glad to see my home state continuing to be confusingly and simultaneously progressive and pants-shittingly stupid.

[emby]

https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/a ... -president

Former Vice President Joe Biden has reportedly indicated that he would only serve for one term if elected to the presidency.

Several sources within the Biden campaign told Politico that the 2020 Democratic candidate would not run for reelection in 2024, when he would be 82 years old.

A 2020 front-runner, Biden, has faced questions about his age and fitness to serve in the White House.

Campaign advisers argue that announcing his intention to only serve one term and signalling that he will choose a younger running mate and cabinet would increase Biden's chances of being the Democratic nominee.

"This makes Biden a good transition figure," the adviser said, while another said Biden wants to find a running mate that he "can turn things over to after four years."

"He's going into this thinking, 'I want to find a running mate I can turn things over to after four years but if that's not possible or doesn't happen then I'll run for re-election.' But he's not going to publicly make a one term pledge," another adviser told Politico.

Asked in October if he would only serve one term if elected, the former vice president told the Associated Press that he wouldn't make that promise but he wasn't deeply committed to seeking a second term.

"I feel good and all I can say is, watch me, you'll see," Biden said. "It doesn't mean I would run a second term. I'm not going to make that judgment at this moment."

Biden, currently 77 years old, is among several candidates 70 and older. Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont is 78 years old and would be 79 upon taking office. Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is months away from turning 78 and another front-runner, Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, is 70 years old.

In our political landscape that's more or less a declaration.

Fair enough.

[The Outsider]

https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/a ... -president

Former Vice President Joe Biden has reportedly indicated that he would only serve for one term if elected to the presidency.

Several sources within the Biden campaign told Politico that the 2020 Democratic candidate would not run for reelection in 2024, when he would be 82 years old.

A 2020 front-runner, Biden, has faced questions about his age and fitness to serve in the White House.

Campaign advisers argue that announcing his intention to only serve one term and signalling that he will choose a younger running mate and cabinet would increase Biden's chances of being the Democratic nominee.

"This makes Biden a good transition figure," the adviser said, while another said Biden wants to find a running mate that he "can turn things over to after four years."

"He's going into this thinking, 'I want to find a running mate I can turn things over to after four years but if that's not possible or doesn't happen then I'll run for re-election.' But he's not going to publicly make a one term pledge," another adviser told Politico.

Asked in October if he would only serve one term if elected, the former vice president told the Associated Press that he wouldn't make that promise but he wasn't deeply committed to seeking a second term.

"I feel good and all I can say is, watch me, you'll see," Biden said. "It doesn't mean I would run a second term. I'm not going to make that judgment at this moment."

Biden, currently 77 years old, is among several candidates 70 and older. Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont is 78 years old and would be 79 upon taking office. Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is months away from turning 78 and another front-runner, Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, is 70 years old.

In our political landscape that's more or less a declaration.

Fair enough.

I'm not super pissed about him reneging not that, but I will say that the idea that he was just going to be a stabilizing factor before handing the reigns to someone younger, more dynamic, and more progressive was a large part of why I was actually happy to vote for him in 2019. It seemed like he understood the situation then. I'm not sure what's changed in the last 4-5 years but I guarantee it's more the people in his ear telling him only he can do this more than him suddenly developing a level of hubris that we have never seen from the man.

[emby]

https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/a ... -president



In our political landscape that's more or less a declaration.

Fair enough.

I'm not super pissed about him reneging not that, but I will say that the idea that he was just going to be a stabilizing factor before handing the reigns to someone younger, more dynamic, and more progressive was a large part of why I was actually happy to vote for him in 2019. It seemed like he understood the situation then. I'm not sure what's changed in the last 4-5 years but I guarantee it's more the people in his ear telling him only he can do this more than him suddenly developing a level of hubris that we have never seen from the man.

I was obviously in the tank for Bernie. Bought merch and even gave him my primary vote after Biden had won the nomination. But I wouldn't do what Russia wanted and try to derail that general election with the Bernie or Bust bullshit. Bernie himself disavowed that crap because that was never the point of his candidacy.

I had figured that Bernie had been a rousing success in 2016 and 2020. But in both instances, I had to make an ideological compromise because my guy didn't have the votes and I had already eliminated Trump as unfit. I made such a compromise with Hillary and again with Biden. Both times for the same reason. Trump was and is unfit to be President.

I don't see where the circumstances are different. Trump is more unfit than ever and the 2028 primary begins January 21st. Joe doesn't even have to survive his second term.

Blue no matter who is a strategy against Trump. I'm not voting for Biden the person because I think he's the bestest President of the 21st century (he is though) . I'm voting to block the hostile takeover of the government by a criminal.

[The Outsider]

Fair enough.

I'm not super pissed about him reneging not that, but I will say that the idea that he was just going to be a stabilizing factor before handing the reigns to someone younger, more dynamic, and more progressive was a large part of why I was actually happy to vote for him in 2019. It seemed like he understood the situation then. I'm not sure what's changed in the last 4-5 years but I guarantee it's more the people in his ear telling him only he can do this more than him suddenly developing a level of hubris that we have never seen from the man.

I was obviously in the tank for Bernie. Bought merch and even gave him my primary vote after Biden had won the nomination. But I wouldn't do what Russia wanted and try to derail that general election with the Bernie or Bust bullshit. Bernie himself disavowed that crap because that was never the point of his candidacy.

I had figured that Bernie had been a rousing success in 2016 and 2020. But in both instances, I had to make an ideological compromise because my guy didn't have the votes and I had already eliminated Trump as unfit. I made such a compromise with Hillary and again with Biden. Both times for the same reason. Trump was and is unfit to be President.

I don't see where the circumstances are different. Trump is more unfit than ever and the 2028 primary begins January 21st. Joe doesn't even have to survive his second term.

Blue no matter who is a strategy against Trump. I'm not voting for Biden the person because I think he's the bestest President of the 21st century (he is though) . I'm voting to block the hostile takeover of the government by a criminal.

Oh yeah I was all in on Sanders I just knew after 2016 when he obviously was the most popular Dem candidate and they went with Clinton anyway that he'd never get nominated. My second choice would have been Warren because I see her much like Biden in that she is someone who would have brought stability, though I think she's stronger than Biden when it comes to policy.

[emby]

I'm not super pissed about him reneging not that, but I will say that the idea that he was just going to be a stabilizing factor before handing the reigns to someone younger, more dynamic, and more progressive was a large part of why I was actually happy to vote for him in 2019. It seemed like he understood the situation then. I'm not sure what's changed in the last 4-5 years but I guarantee it's more the people in his ear telling him only he can do this more than him suddenly developing a level of hubris that we have never seen from the man.

I was obviously in the tank for Bernie. Bought merch and even gave him my primary vote after Biden had won the nomination. But I wouldn't do what Russia wanted and try to derail that general election with the Bernie or Bust bullshit. Bernie himself disavowed that crap because that was never the point of his candidacy.

I had figured that Bernie had been a rousing success in 2016 and 2020. But in both instances, I had to make an ideological compromise because my guy didn't have the votes and I had already eliminated Trump as unfit. I made such a compromise with Hillary and again with Biden. Both times for the same reason. Trump was and is unfit to be President.

I don't see where the circumstances are different. Trump is more unfit than ever and the 2028 primary begins January 21st. Joe doesn't even have to survive his second term.

Blue no matter who is a strategy against Trump. I'm not voting for Biden the person because I think he's the bestest President of the 21st century (he is though) . I'm voting to block the hostile takeover of the government by a criminal.

Oh yeah I was all in on Sanders I just knew after 2016 when he obviously was the most popular Dem candidate and they went with Clinton anyway that he'd never get nominated. My second choice would have been Warren because I see her much like Biden in that she is someone who would have brought stability, though I think she's stronger than Biden when it comes to policy.

When people start running next year it's gonna be glorious. Won't get serious until after the 2026 midterms, but that a very long time to have a nationwide political discussion of "Where do we go from here" without the boomers having full say over the terms of the discussion.

[The Outsider]

If the Dem ticket isn't some combination of Newsome and Whitmer they're not even trying. Whitmer's got the rust-belt success and policy wins behind her while Newsome looks, sounds, and acts the part. He'd be the most 'presidential' president we've had since Obama.

[emby]

If the Dem ticket isn't some combination of Newsome and Whitmer they're not even trying. Whitmer's got the rust-belt success and policy wins behind her while Newsome looks, sounds, and acts the part. He'd be the most 'presidential' president we've had since Obama.

He's kinda weird, I dunno.

Whitmer is going to get a solid look. So will AOC who I don't think needs much more polishing but I think she's waiting for Schumer to retire.

[The Outsider]

If the Dem ticket isn't some combination of Newsome and Whitmer they're not even trying. Whitmer's got the rust-belt success and policy wins behind her while Newsome looks, sounds, and acts the part. He'd be the most 'presidential' president we've had since Obama.

He's kinda weird, I dunno.

Whitmer is going to get a solid look. So will AOC who I don't think needs much more polishing but I think she's waiting for Schumer to retire.

Newsome is tall, experienced, good looking, and a great orator. His only downside is the state he's from. AOC is several election cycles away from being an option at president. She's only 32. I'd like her to spend at least another 10-15 years in the legislature gaining that experience before trying to make the jump to the executive.