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PetePierson wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:14 am
The Outsider wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:49 am I watched a couple of episodes but that show is a lot like A Game of Thrones in that it has virtually no characters with redeeming qualities. Even Karl Urban's character is a piece of garbage.

I like my fiction to be less bleak than my reality, so it isn't for me.
You didn't enjoy GOT? My old boss used to call me "The Hound". He along with Braun were my favorite characters. And even though not "good guys", i felt they had some redeeming characteristics (as broken as they were).

I like Marvin (Mothers Milk) in The Boys, seems like he is trying to be a better man and a better father. And even though has done some heinous shit, I feel like he believes he is doing it for the right reasons. Not a fan of Hughie (other than banging Starlight) but also seems like a good dude.

And the guy playing Homelander does such a masterful job of making the audience hate that character. Even his look and mannerisms, the dude is the Matt Gaetz of entertainment.
I read the books when I was younger. Wasn't a huge fan. I think it's lazy writing to come up with a world in which literally everyone outside of like 3 characters are total pieces of shit. It's just not my cup of tea.

The Boys is similar. I'm not saying that the acting is bad or that the show is even bad, nor am I saying that GOT was a bad show or series of novels. It just doesn't do it for me.
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Going through it very slowly, but I am enjoying Star Trek: Strange New Worlds. It's got everything you love about Star Trek in it including campyness and silliness. Good ensemble cast and reimagining of the universe. The Gorn (kirk fighting lizard man) are presently the big problem for the federation. They're running through the Galaxy eating colonists and vulcans think humans smell something god awful in the 23rd century.

Wife and I are watching the Bear as well on Hulu. Line cooks are having a great time mocking the drama and my daughter says that Jeremy Allen White is "Beautiful" but I have enjoyed this show quite a bit no matter how unrealistic it may be. Scripts are great, cinemetography is out-fucking-standing, and the show is presented in very digestible half hour servings.
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emby wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 12:09 pm Going through it very slowly, but I am enjoying Star Trek: Strange New Worlds. It's got everything you love about Star Trek in it including campyness and silliness. Good ensemble cast and reimagining of the universe. The Gorn (kirk fighting lizard man) are presently the big problem for the federation. They're running through the Galaxy eating colonists and vulcans think humans smell something god awful in the 23rd century.

Wife and I are watching the Bear as well on Hulu. Line cooks are having a great time mocking the drama and my daughter says that Jeremy Allen White is "Beautiful" but I have enjoyed this show quite a bit no matter how unrealistic it may be. Scripts are great, cinemetography is out-fucking-standing, and the show is presented in very digestible half hour servings.
Yeah SNW is a really good addition to the Star Trek series. I really enjoyed it.

And as for The Bear, well, I was a cook for over a decade. Those are my people. And honestly, that show isn't very unrealistic at all. Kitchens are that wild, restaurants are regularly that dysfunctional (and broke) and Carmine is literally every top end chef that has ever chef'd. From the passion to the burn out to the being socially weird as shit.

I see a lot of myself when I was younger in Carmine, so I think that's a big part of the appeal. Oh, and I've worked with so many Richies that I get viscerally angry with that character's shenanigans.
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The Outsider wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 12:17 pm
emby wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 12:09 pm Going through it very slowly, but I am enjoying Star Trek: Strange New Worlds. It's got everything you love about Star Trek in it including campyness and silliness. Good ensemble cast and reimagining of the universe. The Gorn (kirk fighting lizard man) are presently the big problem for the federation. They're running through the Galaxy eating colonists and vulcans think humans smell something god awful in the 23rd century.

Wife and I are watching the Bear as well on Hulu. Line cooks are having a great time mocking the drama and my daughter says that Jeremy Allen White is "Beautiful" but I have enjoyed this show quite a bit no matter how unrealistic it may be. Scripts are great, cinemetography is out-fucking-standing, and the show is presented in very digestible half hour servings.
Yeah SNW is a really good addition to the Star Trek series. I really enjoyed it.
Dad wants me to get into Lower Decks but nostalgia gags and meta humor are wearing thin.
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emby wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 12:24 pm
The Outsider wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 12:17 pm
emby wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 12:09 pm Going through it very slowly, but I am enjoying Star Trek: Strange New Worlds. It's got everything you love about Star Trek in it including campyness and silliness. Good ensemble cast and reimagining of the universe. The Gorn (kirk fighting lizard man) are presently the big problem for the federation. They're running through the Galaxy eating colonists and vulcans think humans smell something god awful in the 23rd century.

Wife and I are watching the Bear as well on Hulu. Line cooks are having a great time mocking the drama and my daughter says that Jeremy Allen White is "Beautiful" but I have enjoyed this show quite a bit no matter how unrealistic it may be. Scripts are great, cinemetography is out-fucking-standing, and the show is presented in very digestible half hour servings.
Yeah SNW is a really good addition to the Star Trek series. I really enjoyed it.
Dad wants me to get into Lower Decks but nostalgia gags and meta humor are wearing thin.
Yeah Lower Decks is alright but it definitely gets old. I also edited my reply above to mention The Bear. Love that show.
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And as for The Bear, well, I was a cook for over a decade. Those are my people. And honestly, that show isn't very unrealistic at all. Kitchens are that wild, restaurants are regularly that dysfunctional (and broke) and Carmine is literally every top end chef that has ever chef'd. From the passion to the burn out to the being socially weird as shit.

I see a lot of myself when I was younger in Carmine, so I think that's a big part of the appeal. Oh, and I've worked with so many Richies that I get viscerally angry with that character's shenanigans.

Couple of memes from the Kitchen Confidential Subreddit

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Those guys are of course line cooks who are having a fun time jabbing at the show because they don't have $55 white T-shirts and somebody scoured the internet to find his season two jacket for $700.

Still..

Jamie Lee Curtis should have won an Emmy instantaneously for her performance in the Seven Fishes episode. That is the most accurate portrayal of manic depression I have ever seen on film. Shit was triggering. Rewatched Oliver Platt's bit about Steve Bartman the other day too.

I like how chefs and cooks are getting their time in the sun as working class heroes. I had my time in the last 20 years as a GI and back in the 70's and 80's it was all about Truckers and factory workers in the rust belt. Anthony Bourdain gets the credit for the shift in my opinion.
“Who's cooking your food anyway? What strange beasts lurk behind the kitchen doors? You see the chef: he's the guy without the hat, with the clipboard under his arm, maybe his name stitched in Tuscan blue on his starched white chef's coat next to those cotton Chinese buttons. But who's actually cooking your food? Are they young, ambitious culinary school grads, putting in their time on the line until they get their shot at the Big Job? Probably not. If the chef is anything like me, the cooks are a dysfunctional, mercenary lot, fringe-dwellers motivated by money, the peculiar lifestyle of cooking and grim pride. They're probably not even American.”
― Anthony Bourdain, Kitchen Confidential: Adventures in the Culinary Underbelly

I'll never stop plugging that book.

Funnily enough, my two kids who both work kitchens have no interest in the show whatsoever.
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Yeah Jamie Lee Curtis was phenomenal. And your kids probably work in kitchens because it's an accessible job that doesn't pay minimum wage, not because they enjoy it.

I'd still be cooking if there were a way to do that and also make real money. It's my favorite job in the world, even when the kitchens I worked in sucked dick it was still fun most of the time.

And yeah, the clothing and shit is expensive, but it's a TV show. Also Carmine was a sous chef at a Michelin Star restaurant pre-show so he was definitely making more than your average line cook. 500k in debt is relatively small change in the restaurant game as well.

As for what Bourdain said. Yes. Absolutely that. I was that guy he described at the end. I still am that guy, I just won't kill my body for ~15 bucks an hour anymore.
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I worked at the same restaurant during summers from about junior year in high school through first few years as in college. Mainly as a Buser. Job sucked but made decent money for a summer job. Plus all the servers were dengerates and would but me beer.

One summer, I was a prep cook for a maniac chef (that narrows it down as they are all frustrated "artists"). But was a great experience and seriously considered culinary arts school.

Seems like there are a lot of really talented chefs out there but the restaurant business is so challenging & competitive. More times than not, a moron is running the business or it is owned by a rich dude that gave it to his wife, son, daughter to run like a toy.
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PetePierson wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:15 pm I worked at the same restaurant during summers from about junior year in high school through first few years as in college. Mainly as a Buser. Job sucked but made decent money for a summer job. Plus all the servers were dengerates and would but me beer.

One summer, I was a prep cook for a maniac chef (that narrows it down as they are all frustrated "artists"). But was a great experience and seriously considered culinary arts school.

Seems like there are a lot of really talented chefs out there but the restaurant business is so challenging & competitive. More times than not, a moron is running the business or it is owned by a rich dude that gave it to his wife, son, daughter to run like a toy.
You should read kitchen confidential. He talks about all that stuff. Twenty years of cuts, burns, lunatics, "artists" and idiots. It's so damn relatable for anyone who has worked in a kitchen.

Take your own experience and getting into a gritty drama about chefs was too easy after Bourdain's books and Ramsay's ass chewing for two decades.
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But I watch Diners, Drive-ins and Dives for recipe ideas so...
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emby wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2024 10:26 pm But I watch Diners, Drive-ins and Dives for recipe ideas so...
I watch triple D for the Flavortown and silly sunglasses.
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