The Left

[kaimaru]

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@The Outsider @emby

My thoughts posting above was mostly thinking about debt forgiveness. To those I stand on the platform that you knowingly willingly took that debt, pay that debt. It is up there to me as the government paying off credit card debt. I don't have a mortgage, but if the government really wanted to boost the economy and help Americans, I would support that over education loans.

I am not against free education, but there are better things we can spend federal money on. Education alone is not going to make everyone less racist, less likely to manipulate less intelligent/educated, less likely to abuse systems and people. As long as religion and people wanting to control how others live exist, it won't fix this country. There are far more important thing like healthcare, specifically for the disadvantaged, that to me is foremost. I feel that money is better spent on housing problems and infrastructure than free secondary education.

In the end, I would not be upset if future secondary education is free. Four year degrees are free and anything after is your cost along with those wanting to get multiple four year degrees. You can go back to calling me names now

[emby]

I watched my old boss put $13,000 of PPP money in his fuckin pocket.

I don't want to hear a fuckin word about "you borrowed it, you pay it."

[kaimaru]

I watched my old boss put $13,000 of PPP money in his fuckin pocket.

I don't want to hear a fuckin word about "you borrowed it, you pay it."

So did Brady. WTF does that have to do with free education or defending your stance that there isn't enough opportunity for free education? Is our 2020 no longer valid to you? Are you denouncing our team bc of it or only 2021 and 2022 season. You realize how much of a hypocrite you are being and ignoring the entire point of the conversation.

Nothing, housing and support for the disadvantaged is unimportant? But fuck yeah free education baby!

You are an elitist like BiBL. When she clearly lies, she never responds. Buc2 figured that out with me. Now we both call her out and she, like you, never rebuttals Never express a view to contradict our stances. You're no different. You can't argue your stance, you simply ignore it. Obama got a bad rap as an elitist he wasn't. Biden is an elitist which is why you two back him so hard. again, coward

[emby]

I watched my old boss put $13,000 of PPP money in his fuckin pocket.

I don't want to hear a fuckin word about "you borrowed it, you pay it."

So did Brady. WTF does that have to do with free education or defending your stance that there isn't enough opportunity for free education? Is our 2020 no longer valid to you? Are you denouncing our team bc of it or only 2021 and 2022 season. You realize how much of a hypocrite you are being and ignoring the entire point of the conversation.

Nothing, housing and support for the disadvantaged is unimportant? But fuck yeah free education baby!

You are an elitist like BiBL. When she clearly lies, she never responds. Buc2 figured that out with me. Now we both call her out and she, like you, never rebuttals Never express a view to contradict our stances. You're no different. You can't argue your stance, you simply ignore it. Obama got a bad rap as an elitist he wasn't. Biden is an elitist which is why you two back him so hard. again, coward

What the hell are you talking about other than machinations on why everyone should pay student loans because you did?

I'm an elitist because I want tuition free schools now?

Guilty as charged. Now obey your betters.

[The Outsider]

@The Outsider @emby

My thoughts posting above was mostly thinking about debt forgiveness. To those I stand on the platform that you knowingly willingly took that debt, pay that debt. It is up there to me as the government paying off credit card debt. I don't have a mortgage, but if the government really wanted to boost the economy and help Americans, I would support that over education loans.

I am not against free education, but there are better things we can spend federal money on. Education alone is not going to make everyone less racist, less likely to manipulate less intelligent/educated, less likely to abuse systems and people. As long as religion and people wanting to control how others live exist, it won't fix this country. There are far more important thing like healthcare, specifically for the disadvantaged, that to me is foremost. I feel that money is better spent on housing problems and infrastructure than free secondary education.

In the end, I would not be upset if future secondary education is free. Four year degrees are free and anything after is your cost along with those wanting to get multiple four year degrees. You can go back to calling me names now

I have no problem with people having to pay their debt. I also have no problem with people getting their debt forgiven. They don't owe me money, I don't have skin in the game and if the Feds decide they can forgive those loans who cares? No one is harmed, your degree isn't worth less, your experience isn't invalidated, your life doesn't change one iota while the lives of millions of other Americans are improved substantially .

Also, education most definitely decreases racism and religiosity. It doesn't eradicate it, but there's a reason those dumb, backwards rednecks hate 'college librul elitists' and it's largely because if their kids go to college they end up straying from the ass backwards ways they were raised. This is something that has been studied and has empirical evidence that backs up the assertion.

[The Outsider]

Oh, and yeah, I don't know if you're being purposely disingenuous or if you just don't know what the word elitist means. But you're apparently proud of some sleuthing you did with Buc2 to figure out BiBL (I'm literally laughing over here because Buc2 is essentially retarded and BiBL is a loon, congrats on your achievement) so I wouldn't be surprised if it's both.

[emby]

Where was I...

End Fossil Fuel Subsidies and Tax Big Oil’s Excess Profits.

I hate it when the language is this vague. I'm here for ending subsidies and taxing the skibbidy out of big oil, but honestly it'd be better policy to simply nationalize the oil supply.

The same people will be drilling, pumping, refining, manufacturing, shipping, and selling. The only difference would be Uncle Sam is who owns the oil in the barrel.

[emby]

Promote Affordable and Sustainable Transportation: Invest in public
transportation that lowers emissions, expands electric and renewable energy, and
ensures all Americans have safe and affordable options.

This has been a pleasant part of the Biden Administration that Trump doesn't dare talk about. I once saw an overlay of the chinese high speed rail system on a US map...




I know that's not precisely what the progressive caucus is talking about and Biden's rail investment was more for conventional commuter rail, I can't help but think that with the congestion not only on the interstate and in the airports as well, that these commuter and high speed rail systems are the next big development for the infrastructure.

This isn't even ideological shit. This is just left on the table by republicans.

[PetePierson]

I am late to the party but shockingly, I am not down with the trillions Joey pissed away with student loan debt forgiveness. And I am not sure if it is the act itself or the way he did it by obfuscating both congress and the courts.

That is all.

[The Outsider]

I am late to the party but shockingly, I am not down with the trillions Joey pissed away with student loan debt forgiveness. And I am not sure if it is the act itself or the way he did it by obfuscating both congress and the courts.

That is all.

Lol trillions? It's a 153 billion right now, which is a lot, but is not even close to 'trillions'.

[PetePierson]

Lol trillions? It's a 153 billion right now, which is a lot, but is not even close to 'trillions'.

My bad. I usually type "gazillions" when it is a number so large that my lizard brain can't even begin to comprehend the amount.